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Tuesday, November 06

Blogger "Mike says" misses the point about a Qnews story

The lesson here is that subtlety doesn't play in the blog-cosmos.  The lesson (which I've known after years of doing this, but sometimes forget) comes from a link (always welcome even if it's made for all the wrong reasons) to a story in Qnews.

This is the Qnews story: Cops nab nine in major tea-room sex-sting; Paper prints pictures; Chief scared

This is an uncommon story for Qnews because there is no source link to a news site on the first line. Instead, it says "Source: seaQwa Qnews from media reports". Subtle distinction, but what it means is that I wrote at least a major part of the story. It is not, like most items in Qnews, a simple digest of someone else's story.

The reason I did that on this story is because I thought the original newspaper's story was outrageous and wholly inappropriate. Qnews isn't a place for me to say that, but I had hoped it would be obvious to readers that the coverage by Daytona Beach News-Journal was over-the-top.

My lede, which is completely different than the lede in the News-Journal is:

Daytona Beach News-Journal on Friday printed photographs and names of nine men arrested on misdemeanor charges  by a large police team that ran a sting to find men who were coughing, sneezing, and tapping their feet in a local mall restroom.

Although I'll admit the three-part headline didn't do a good job of conveying this, my lede is not about the arrests. It is about the paper's decision to print the pictures of men the arrested for misdemeanors. The secondary lede is about the size of the police force used to effect the nine petty arrests.

The incredibly homophobic comments of the Daytona Beach police chief are quoted extensively.

I did my best within constraints of a news story to convey the utter ridiculousness of the arrests themselves and of the paper's coverage of the arrests.

But a blogger whose name, I assume, is "Mike" since his blog is called "Mike says" chooses to link to that Qnews story in order to make a point that has little to do with that particular story. What apparently worries Mike is that the I didn't mention that the minor local politician arrested in the tea-room sting is a Democrat.

Mike thinks this is a naughty thing and -- I suppose some sort of sign of liberal bias. Maybe it is. But I didn't see the affiliation in the News-Journal story. That doesn't surprise me because I come from a place where local races are non-partisan. Maybe it was there, but I wasn't looking for it. 

While the original story in the News-Journal goes on at length about the tea-room 9, giving personal details as well as names and photographs, all that the Qnews story says about them is this:

A former Daytona Beach city commissioner and a local high school teacher were among those arrested in the sting and pictured in the paper. The teacher resigned, after posting $1000 bail.

I didn't mention the name of the arrested politician or teacher or the names of any of the other men arrested because I think it was inappropriate for the original story to mention those names and print their pictures. I doubt that they often print front-page stories on misdemeanor arrests, or that they print the names and pictures of the scofflaws when they do such stories.

That was the too-subtle point of the story and the reason it was framed as it was.

Mike the blogger is also upset about this 'graph in the story:

Snaring a minor local politician in the sting echoes the scandal involving Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, who was arrested at a Minnesota airport restroom in June after investigators said he made suggestive signals to an undercover cop in an adjoining stall.

That's almost a direct quotation from the News-Journal except that they included the name of the "minor local politician". The reference to Craig does use the party designation, but that is the common way of identifying members of Congress and (here, at least) the state legislature.

And yes, I could have left it out. (It was, in fact, a late addition to the story along with the next graph about reader response to the News-Journal story.)

I don't mind that he linked to the Qnews post even if Mike grossly misinterprets the story in order to make a silly point, but he could have found several posts including gaynews.blogspot.com that hewed more closely to the homophobic News-Journal coverage of the arrests and that included the name of the minor local politician who was caught up in the arrest.

Oh, and Mike doesn't seem to think much of Qnews in general, since he uses scare quotes when he calls it 'a gay-theme “news” site'.

No Mike, you may not be jaded, but you read like most of us on the web and miss the point in cases like this because of it.

(I tried to comment about this on Mike's blog, but the software he uses to run it -- Wordpress -- would not accept my new registration.)

Posted by Robin Evans on Nov 06 2007, 04:21 PM [Permalink]
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  • Mike said:

    Actually, Robin, it worked just fine.  The link to THIS post is there - you'll have to talk to WordPress about the fact that your comment didn't show up.  It's a free blog - I have no control over that.  You'll find that the track back is there, now.

    I think it was YOU that misunderstand.  I linked to your story specifically because you did NOT name the persons named in the local paper (and blogosphere).  I'm not one to "out" someone for any reason - especially if they've not been convicted of the crime they are accused.

    I see also that you took umbrage at me saying that you'd pointed to Larry Craig.  I did point it out, but I thought it was obvious that YOU were quoting your source - not that you were saying it.  Also, I thought it was much more relevant to point out that State Rep Bob Allen would have been a better example.  All politics are local - and Rep. Allen is a Florida State Representative - caught recently (though not currently convicted) in a similar situation.

    <em>Mike thinks this is a naughty thing and -- I suppose some sort of sign of liberal bias. Maybe it is. But I didn't see the affiliation in the News-Journal story. That doesn't surprise me because I come from a place where local races are non-partisan. Maybe it was there, but I wasn't looking for it.</em>

    If you read my post, or my blog, you would see that I would never be considered "liberal".  Again, I linked to your post because you didn't mention names of any of the accused - a la Mike Rogers, Joe My God, or Pam Spaulding.

    Notice again - no links. They live for this type of scandal.

    I do not accuse you of the same.

    November 6, 2007 6:16 PM
  • Robin Evans said:

    [[ some blogger-geek: Yup. I figured that the trackback mechanism might get a link to this post there which is as good as a comment. And it is WordPress itself that's broken at the moment. I even tried to register from their main page and it's a no go. ]]

    I re-read your post and still misunderstand. But, anyway. I see we're both trying to making somewhat the same point -- that the widespread publication of the names and personal details of men who were accused but not convicted of a misdemeanor was inappropriate.

    This site is divided in an odd way among a number of sections. I try to keep the "Qnews" section free of my commentary since it's meant to be a digest of web-published news stories. I admit to a liberal, gay-centric bias in my selection of stories, headlines, and sometimes even in the digesting. But I try to keep the digest as true as possible to the longer and more nuanced story I'm linking to.

    That News-Journal story was one that I just couldn't bring myself to even digest in the usual way. I thought their story was ourrageous. I was tempted to comment on it in another section, Qblog, but it's such a non-local story -- coming as it does from the other end of the continent -- that it didn't seem appropriate to bring it up in Qblog which is focused on Seattle and the Northwest. (Craig: Him I can do over on that blog because he's from a neighboring state.)

    I agree with you (I think) that the 'graph about Craig in my version of the tea-room-nine story is inappropriate. I shouldn't have put it in there, or should have explicitly quoted the News-Journal's use of the reference.

    I'm afraid I don't even know the name or story of Bob Allen.

    I will now read your blog more often and may come to know of the next "Bob Allen" -- whatever his name or situation may be. (Although, really, how could anyone compare to our own ex-Rep. Dick Curtis?) Oh, yeah, that's Richard Curtis (R-La Center) ;-)

    Oh, but I can't resist the links (which they'll ignore, but as a test to see if the linking in messages that is supposed to work actually is working): <a href="www.blogactive.com/">Mike Rogers</a>, <a href="www.joemygod.blogspot.com/.../a>. <a href="www.pamshouseblend.com/">Pam Spaulding</a>. Headlines from all of their blogs and more appear on our homepage in a more-active than usual blogroll.

    November 6, 2007 8:07 PM
  • Robin Evans said:

    New item for todo list: Fix the damn scrubber that's really screwing up links and other supposedly valid markup in comments.

    November 6, 2007 8:09 PM
  • Mike said:

    Thanks for that.

    I also reread your post and can tell from the title that you are taking issue with the paper's article (which was horrible) and the sheriff (who was/is worse - and an ass to boot).

    Anyway, I apologize if I wasn't clear enough.  However, the fact that there were no links (from me, above) was by design, and you'll find no discussion of Bob Allen on my blog.  I am not a political or news blog, and all opinions are solely my own - and prolly not worth a hill of beans. ;)

    November 7, 2007 3:51 AM

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